Comments on: 2010 Backlash – Market Crash http://snowmobiles.yamahablogs.ca/2009/02/11/a-sign-of-the-times/ Where sled heads gather to talk about what they love best. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:27:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: sldmnx.com » Blog Archive » Yamaha 2011 - A Game Changer (with Power Steering?) http://snowmobiles.yamahablogs.ca/2009/02/11/a-sign-of-the-times/comment-page-1/#comment-3516 sldmnx.com » Blog Archive » Yamaha 2011 - A Game Changer (with Power Steering?) Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:15:28 +0000 http://snowmobiles.yamahablogs.ca/2009/02/11/a-sign-of-the-times/#comment-3516 [...] interesting to see what they will show for us at the 2 February. Last year many Yamaha fans was disapointed over what the 2010 line up had to offer but this year Cr say on Yamaha Sled Talk that: -”Will [...] [...] interesting to see what they will show for us at the 2 February. Last year many Yamaha fans was disapointed over what the 2010 line up had to offer but this year Cr say on Yamaha Sled Talk that: -”Will [...]

]]> By: agentzoey http://snowmobiles.yamahablogs.ca/2009/02/11/a-sign-of-the-times/comment-page-1/#comment-2671 agentzoey Thu, 26 Feb 2009 04:38:40 +0000 http://snowmobiles.yamahablogs.ca/2009/02/11/a-sign-of-the-times/#comment-2671 Hey Chris, I just wanted to say that when you guys did the video with Vector vs the Apex, a real good seller would have been a race against the BRP XR 4tec 1200 sled. I bet it gives that 1200 fits or beats it. Am I correct? That would get Doo-talk in an up-roar and give alot of people something to talk about and I definetly believe you would have some jumpers from BRP to Yamaha. Later, Andy Hey Chris, I just wanted to say that when you guys did the video with Vector vs the Apex, a real good seller would have been a race against the BRP XR 4tec 1200 sled. I bet it gives that 1200 fits or beats it. Am I correct? That would get Doo-talk in an up-roar and give alot of people something to talk about and I definetly believe you would have some jumpers from BRP to Yamaha.

Later,

Andy

]]> By: patrick''pat the rat'' lavictoire http://snowmobiles.yamahablogs.ca/2009/02/11/a-sign-of-the-times/comment-page-1/#comment-2660 patrick''pat the rat'' lavictoire Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:40:56 +0000 http://snowmobiles.yamahablogs.ca/2009/02/11/a-sign-of-the-times/#comment-2660 i was gone on a 7 day trip in quebec last week,the same week the 2010 were to be unveiled,with no internet access,i was biting my finger nails on the new line up,finally on the 11th,we ran into a bunch of yammi riders on the trail so i went and talked to them and i asked them if a new model was out,they told me,no,nothing,nada.i was kind of shocked by that news,not because i was waiting to purchase a new model cuz i love my 09 vector ltx,it was just a feeling of,oh no,yamaha is slowing down,they are getting out of the snowmobile business with all that recession happening,then i came to my senses,no way yamaha is bailing out on us,they make to good of a product and have too many loyalist to do that,frankly,i dont know what id do if yamaha was to walk away from the snowmo business,i guess i would keep my vector for ever,ah,ah,when i came back home i checked the new line up in full and i must say that i was surprised at all the improvements made on several models,it is a strong line up imo,just wondering what happened to the vector ltx non gt,keep up the good work,i love the blog 'ptr' i was gone on a 7 day trip in quebec last week,the same week the 2010 were to be unveiled,with no internet access,i was biting my finger nails on the new line up,finally on the 11th,we ran into a bunch of yammi riders on the trail so i went and talked to them and i asked them if a new model was out,they told me,no,nothing,nada.i was kind of shocked by that news,not because i was waiting to purchase a new model cuz i love my 09 vector ltx,it was just a feeling of,oh no,yamaha is slowing down,they are getting out of the snowmobile business with all that recession happening,then i came to my senses,no way yamaha is bailing out on us,they make to good of a product and have too many loyalist to do that,frankly,i dont know what id do if yamaha was to walk away from the snowmo business,i guess i would keep my vector for ever,ah,ah,when i came back home i checked the new line up in full and i must say that i was surprised at all the improvements made on several models,it is a strong line up imo,just wondering what happened to the vector ltx non gt,keep up the good work,i love the blog
‘ptr’

]]> By: Sasquatch http://snowmobiles.yamahablogs.ca/2009/02/11/a-sign-of-the-times/comment-page-1/#comment-2659 Sasquatch Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:30:27 +0000 http://snowmobiles.yamahablogs.ca/2009/02/11/a-sign-of-the-times/#comment-2659 I'm not anymore disappointed then I was last year and the year before. In this global meltdown I didn't expect to much either. But if everyone gets a beef then here is mine! With the new Apex based Venture dropping the Apex motor in it is so easy its amazing that its not done to compete with Cats Turbo touring. I've talked with you about this before. I want a performance touring sled. I had to settle for a warrior in 05 after waiting for Yamaha to put the motor in the Venture to no avail. I'm no fan of the Nytro and even the Apex is wind protection limited for -30 touring (I know I'm going to be unpopular after saying that). At least now that the Venture is Apex based a new larger touring windshield is offered. As I still like my Warrior I'm keeping it for a while longer but right now only Cat makes a performance touring sled. Yamaha could compete with a 150 fuely Venture that would in my opinion be a sweet sled. I left Cat when they dropped the 1000 (T-Cat)Pantera. Now they are building another sled its equal. Maybe they saw a market wonder who is buying those sleds? As its a four stroke performance two up touring I know I would and may! I like Yamaha but stand up snowcross style sleds being the only way to get any performance are not for the older ones of us that want a little comfort and power to go with it. My wife likes to go for a ride a few times a year. I have a seat Jack but it sucks. The Venture as a two up does not. But without the Apex motor I won't buy it. The sled is a bolt together option with the exhaust being the only thing different. Adding a few more inches of pipe should not overtax engineering or assembly. Heck make it a spring order only model. I know its not a huge demand sled but there are many who would buy it. So again I'm not really disappointed with the line up anymore this year then last. Snowcross sells and I can understand that but i've seen many a snowcross sledder frozen stiff at warmup shacks all over the place. Sales are up for heated clothing because of it. Maybe Yamaha can mount a small generator option for those drawing 10 to 20 amps on -30 days. Bad humor I know! Anyway I just want to let you know I'm still pulling for the two up performance touring. As I know you are not against such a sled I just want to bring it to top of mind again. Drop the hint again this year for me would ya! Thanks Charlie C aka Sasquatch <em>excellent write up Charlie... this planning debate goes way back to the Vmax4... Canada asked for one (Vmax4 Touring) based on the Quebec market... didn't happen, then came the SRX 700 and more requests from Canada.. nada... then the RX-1, now Apex... Canada is still asking!! Long live good trails and cold temps... too bad the market didn't speak up south of the border over the years or things might be different today. cheers cr</em> I’m not anymore disappointed then I was last year and the year before. In this global meltdown I didn’t expect to much either. But if everyone gets a beef then here is mine!

With the new Apex based Venture dropping the Apex motor in it is so easy its amazing that its not done to compete with Cats Turbo touring.

I’ve talked with you about this before. I want a performance touring sled. I had to settle for a warrior in 05 after waiting for Yamaha to put the motor in the Venture to no avail.

I’m no fan of the Nytro and even the Apex is wind protection limited for -30 touring (I know I’m going to be unpopular after saying that). At least now that the Venture is Apex based a new larger touring windshield is offered.

As I still like my Warrior I’m keeping it for a while longer but right now only Cat makes a performance touring sled. Yamaha could compete with a 150 fuely Venture that would in my opinion be a sweet sled.

I left Cat when they dropped the 1000 (T-Cat)Pantera. Now they are building another sled its equal. Maybe they saw a market wonder who is buying those sleds? As its a four stroke performance two up touring I know I would and may!

I like Yamaha but stand up snowcross style sleds being the only way to get any performance are not for the older ones of us that want a little comfort and power to go with it. My wife likes to go for a ride a few times a year. I have a seat Jack but it sucks. The Venture as a two up does not. But without the Apex motor I won’t buy it.

The sled is a bolt together option with the exhaust being the only thing different. Adding a few more inches of pipe should not overtax engineering or assembly.

Heck make it a spring order only model. I know its not a huge demand sled but there are many who would buy it.

So again I’m not really disappointed with the line up anymore this year then last. Snowcross sells and I can understand that but i’ve seen many a snowcross sledder frozen stiff at warmup shacks all over the place.

Sales are up for heated clothing because of it. Maybe Yamaha can mount a small generator option for those drawing 10 to 20 amps on -30 days. Bad humor I know!

Anyway I just want to let you know I’m still pulling for the two up performance touring. As I know you are not against such a sled I just want to bring it to top of mind again.

Drop the hint again this year for me would ya!

Thanks Charlie C aka Sasquatch

excellent write up Charlie… this planning debate goes way back to the Vmax4… Canada asked for one (Vmax4 Touring) based on the Quebec market… didn’t happen, then came the SRX 700 and more requests from Canada.. nada… then the RX-1, now Apex… Canada is still asking!! Long live good trails and cold temps… too bad the market didn’t speak up south of the border over the years or things might be different today. cheers cr

]]> By: Jennifer http://snowmobiles.yamahablogs.ca/2009/02/11/a-sign-of-the-times/comment-page-1/#comment-2654 Jennifer Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:55:31 +0000 http://snowmobiles.yamahablogs.ca/2009/02/11/a-sign-of-the-times/#comment-2654 So my husband and I bought two 09 Vectors and at the risk of getting my ear chewed off I am glad they didn't change much. I didn't want to regret not waiting until 2010. I used to own two Arctic Cats and one Ski Doo when the decision came to buy I did my research! The engine blew on the Ski Doo and I wasn't going to spend enough money to buy a new car on something you ride three months out of the year just to have it start on fire....Polaris.....or sit in the shop......Ski Doo......or have various problem to numerous to mention....Arctic Cat. I am not saying that they are not good sleds, but when I did my research they were the ones with the most complaints. Like I said, I had two Arctic Cats, and a Ski Doo with a motor that blew. I choose our Yamaha's because of reliability and comfort, I am not the type to trade in every two years. I will let other people buy the new models and get all the bugs worked out, THEN I will trade mine it for two new ones....again. So Yamaha take your time....but not to long.... :-) <em>hey Jennifer,certainly sounds like you did your homework alright... hope you are satisfied with the Yamaha's so far, look at the bright side, you can invest all that money UR saving into spa appointments or maybe a turbo ;-) glad you're both on board! cheers cr</em> So my husband and I bought two 09 Vectors and at the risk of getting my ear chewed off I am glad they didn’t change much. I didn’t want to regret not waiting until 2010.
I used to own two Arctic Cats and one Ski Doo when the decision came to buy I did my research! The engine blew on the Ski Doo and I wasn’t going to spend enough money to buy a new car on something you ride three months out of the year just to have it start on fire….Polaris…..or sit in the shop……Ski Doo……or have various problem to numerous to mention….Arctic Cat. I am not saying that they are not good sleds, but when I did my research they were the ones with the most complaints. Like I said, I had two Arctic Cats, and a Ski Doo with a motor that blew.
I choose our Yamaha’s because of reliability and comfort, I am not the type to trade in every two years. I will let other people buy the new models and get all the bugs worked out, THEN I will trade mine it for two new ones….again. So Yamaha take your time….but not to long…. :-)

hey Jennifer,certainly sounds like you did your homework alright… hope you are satisfied with the Yamaha’s so far, look at the bright side, you can invest all that money UR saving into spa appointments or maybe a turbo ;-) glad you’re both on board! cheers cr

]]> By: parepadarappa http://snowmobiles.yamahablogs.ca/2009/02/11/a-sign-of-the-times/comment-page-1/#comment-2652 parepadarappa Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:21:43 +0000 http://snowmobiles.yamahablogs.ca/2009/02/11/a-sign-of-the-times/#comment-2652 Well, now that the new release is done with, and the fire has settled down so to speak, maybe you could get to finishing the SRX/Viper story that you started last winter. (Sorry Chris, I for some reason feel this burning desire to stir the pot) -Ben <em>well Ben I read this comment and went to my file on the Viper assets with the intention of starting the post. Man this is a large project and I simply can't do it justice this week. I promise you'll get the story but it'll have to wait until the snow melts and things slow down a bit... I must keep reminding myself that blogging is not in my job description and not why I get paid the dough for holding down this desk... cheers cr</em> Well, now that the new release is done with, and the fire has settled down so to speak, maybe you could get to finishing the SRX/Viper story that you started last winter. (Sorry Chris, I for some reason feel this burning desire to stir the pot)
-Ben

well Ben I read this comment and went to my file on the Viper assets with the intention of starting the post. Man this is a large project and I simply can’t do it justice this week. I promise you’ll get the story but it’ll have to wait until the snow melts and things slow down a bit… I must keep reminding myself that blogging is not in my job description and not why I get paid the dough for holding down this desk… cheers cr

]]> By: J Miller http://snowmobiles.yamahablogs.ca/2009/02/11/a-sign-of-the-times/comment-page-1/#comment-2650 J Miller Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:17:15 +0000 http://snowmobiles.yamahablogs.ca/2009/02/11/a-sign-of-the-times/#comment-2650 I was a little disappointed there is no new Apex, but I was planning to ride my 08 for another season anyway. I hope that the exhaust systems will be improved, as I have had to replace donuts on my Apex, as well as my 08 Nytro already, both around 4600km mark.I hope that prices will drop before 2011 models are out. I was a little disappointed there is no new Apex, but I was planning to ride my 08 for another season anyway. I hope that the exhaust systems will be improved, as I have had to replace donuts on my Apex, as well as my 08 Nytro already, both around 4600km mark.I hope that prices will drop before 2011 models are out.

]]> By: mark rosenblath http://snowmobiles.yamahablogs.ca/2009/02/11/a-sign-of-the-times/comment-page-1/#comment-2649 mark rosenblath Sun, 15 Feb 2009 13:45:55 +0000 http://snowmobiles.yamahablogs.ca/2009/02/11/a-sign-of-the-times/#comment-2649 All the hugs and kisses and pats on the back are sweet, but keep telling yamaha its ok maybe next year( will never change things) sorry about my honesty alot are thinking the same thing thanks Mark All the hugs and kisses and pats on the back are sweet, but keep telling yamaha its ok maybe next year( will never change things) sorry about my honesty alot are thinking the same thing thanks Mark

]]> By: Pistol http://snowmobiles.yamahablogs.ca/2009/02/11/a-sign-of-the-times/comment-page-1/#comment-2648 Pistol Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:53:10 +0000 http://snowmobiles.yamahablogs.ca/2009/02/11/a-sign-of-the-times/#comment-2648 Come on now CR I'm sure there is time for the updated mono, the drivers and full clipped track to arrive in the 2010 Apex. It's all just pre-production units now so who knows what might happen when the production run starts :-) Also I'm sure you could let us know a little about the now to be 2011 top of the line sled. How would the EPS system work on a sled etc etc? Purely theoretically speaking of course b/c I'd hate to think you have ridden it and would not share :-) BTW I think Yamaha has done the right thing this year. Tighten the purse strings sit back and watch Cat go bust. The supposedly crap Apex just happens to be a turn the key go faster than all other stockers day in and day out machine. Who needs that!!! The crap chassis that seems to be able to have a turbo or s/c bolted on and run incredible hp without any beefing up. Who needs that!!! Handling issues can be addressed with a 13mm bar, a set of Cobraheads and suspension adjustments. Thanks for the constant improvements based on customer complaints. Not just for 2010 by addressing the wheel bearings (I've never had a problem) the heated grips (I've never had a problem) but also the addition of a rear heat exchanger in 2009 (never had the light come on without one) and so on down the years. Should also mention no issues with slider wear either. Typical Yamaha, burn quickly to the wear line and then last for miles and miles like that. Sure nothing is perfect. The pricing issue btw USA and CDN is a favourite!! The 2008 Nytro front end!! The exhuast donuts are another issue Yamaha needs to address. Although I might be mistaken on that one b/c has something been done for 2009 or 2010 to stop this from happening? A flex pipe or an extra clamp in there? Anyway we can all spend our hard earned money on what ever machine we like and so on and so forth.... Keep up the good work CR. Let me know if you need an assistant. Also when do I get to borrow the 2010 Vector GT for the weekend :-) Cheers. Come on now CR I’m sure there is time for the updated mono, the drivers and full clipped track to arrive in the 2010 Apex. It’s all just pre-production units now so who knows what might happen when the production run starts :-)

Also I’m sure you could let us know a little about the now to be 2011 top of the line sled. How would the EPS system work on a sled etc etc? Purely theoretically speaking of course b/c I’d hate to think you have ridden it and would not share :-)

BTW I think Yamaha has done the right thing this year. Tighten the purse strings sit back and watch Cat go bust. The supposedly crap Apex just happens to be a turn the key go faster than all other stockers day in and day out machine. Who needs that!!! The crap chassis that seems to be able to have a turbo or s/c bolted on and run incredible hp without any beefing up. Who needs that!!! Handling issues can be addressed with a 13mm bar, a set of Cobraheads and suspension adjustments. Thanks for the constant improvements based on customer complaints. Not just for 2010 by addressing the wheel bearings (I’ve never had a problem) the heated grips (I’ve never had a problem) but also the addition of a rear heat exchanger in 2009 (never had the light come on without one) and so on down the years. Should also mention no issues with slider wear either. Typical Yamaha, burn quickly to the wear line and then last for miles and miles like that.

Sure nothing is perfect. The pricing issue btw USA and CDN is a favourite!! The 2008 Nytro front end!! The exhuast donuts are another issue Yamaha needs to address. Although I might be mistaken on that one b/c has something been done for 2009 or 2010 to stop this from happening? A flex pipe or an extra clamp in there?

Anyway we can all spend our hard earned money on what ever machine we like and so on and so forth….

Keep up the good work CR. Let me know if you need an assistant. Also when do I get to borrow the 2010 Vector GT for the weekend :-)

Cheers.

]]> By: Bob Hogg http://snowmobiles.yamahablogs.ca/2009/02/11/a-sign-of-the-times/comment-page-1/#comment-2647 Bob Hogg Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:19:37 +0000 http://snowmobiles.yamahablogs.ca/2009/02/11/a-sign-of-the-times/#comment-2647 What a world ay….the guy down the street was the owner of Harbourcraft Aluminum boats. He sold the business, years ago, because the darn customers DEMANDED upgrades every year….good thing he didn’t make sleds. ON A ROW BOAT!!!! The Yen – ya…wow – it’s a huge impact on the Canadian dollar – it’s about $1200.00 cheaper for us to use USD…. just buying a small amount like Yen 500,000. The magazines will build the product - just like they have for the past 4 decades. I can say it….90% of the Yamaha riders I talk to have never heard of TY. What a world ay….the guy down the street was the owner of Harbourcraft Aluminum boats. He sold the business, years ago, because the darn customers DEMANDED upgrades every year….good thing he didn’t make sleds. ON A ROW BOAT!!!!

The Yen – ya…wow – it’s a huge impact on the Canadian dollar – it’s about $1200.00 cheaper for us to use USD…. just buying a small amount like Yen 500,000.

The magazines will build the product – just like they have for the past 4 decades. I can say it….90% of the Yamaha riders I talk to have never heard of TY.

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