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October 15, 2007

Snowmobile Accessories

Don’t Leave Home Without It…

I have had a some inquiries to update our new accessories. Terry wanted to know about the fuel caddy / soft luggage from the ‘Getting Tanked With a Buddy’ post.

Heres’ the pic’s I was given this morning. Evidently you don’t need to drill holes as they have used some existing ones to fasten the bracket.

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I like the option of carrying fuel and / or gear. The bracket will add strength and rigidity to the bag. I can see one pail of gas, two pairs of socks, spare ‘gitch, toothbrush and a handful of trail maps… gid’y'up.

A couple of other last minute items are also available. New tank bags for Nytro and Apex:

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And some sport luggage:

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These should all be up on our Yamaha Motor Canada web-site with more details and pricing in the next few days. I also spoke with Chris at Tour Buddy and he should have his first production roto-molded tank for the Nytro this week. I’ll get some pics of that for you as well.

Some other newsworthy topics are likely going to impact us down the road. There is a strong lobby afoot in the USA to bring more ethanol to pump fuels. I am hearing upwards of 20% content E-20 fuel (currently I believe most fuels contain up to 10%). A big part of this push is coming from the ethanol producers. As an industry we must ensure that any new fuels introduced are compatible with our products, which requires lead time and engineering consideration.

On a related front the topic of sound emissions (noise) is being reviewed (again) with the likelihood of even more stringent testing standards to meet in the future. I know it can be argued that loud exhaust systems have a place, but it has been my experience that loud output on any and all motor sports products has given our detractors the ammo to shut down trails and access more than any other thing we do.

As a company we have decided to no longer sell exhaust accessories that increase the noise output of our products, even for closed course, racing applications. We realize eventually race equipment may be sold and used on public lands. We have also encouraged our dealers to avoid promoting the sales of after market noise makers as well. It is promising to see some of the AM suppliers are developing new products that meet or exceed current noise emission standards, while offering enhanced performance and lighter weight. Generally technology will stay in front of the regulations… I think of my old pal Lance ‘I have never taken taken performance enhancing drugs’ … no coat hangers in the Tour de France. ;-)

cheers cr

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12 Responses to “Snowmobile Accessories”

  1. Dustin says:

    Chris,

    Do you have any pictures of how the standard FX Nytro Trunk bag is mounted. I have one and the instructions included are for the FX Phazer.

    The rear straps are supposed to wrap around something. On the shorttracked FX Nytros its the rear bumper bar, and also on the FX Phazer. But they won’t work for the MTX, as the bumper is too far away.

    Thanks!

    Hey Dustin, I checked our web-site and it indicates there are attachments included to fit short or long track machines. I have asked our P&A guy to confirm. (You might be missing some hardware)… suggest you give your dealer a shout and have them check another kit to confirm. I’ll post any more info I get… cheers cr

  2. Dustin says:

    Chris are these trunk clasps on the Yamaha Canada website what you are talking about?

    http://www.yamaha-motor.ca/accessories/accessory_details.php?item=1379&group=S&model=2171

    Negative, Dustin, those are for the seat storage flap, the same little widgets that used to come on Exciters and Phazers (we now use Velcro). Wouldn’t recommend for a mountain sled as they are prone to getting snapped off if you happen to kick one when working the sled in the powder. Still waiting to hear back from our expert… cr

    UPDATE: Dustin there was an updated instruction sheet (I’ll email it to you), there should have been 4 clasps and rivets with your bags. ‘The additional hardware needed to mount these bags to the mtx would also be found in SMA-LUGGE-HW-KT.’ The header should have said Nytro as well as Phazer. There has been a revision. cheers cr

  3. scott says:

    I think it is very responsible for Yamaha not to sell loud exhaust systems. If a loud exhaust is used strictly racing that is one thing, but like you mentioned they end up out on the trails and public land which is not good for the sport.

    I think GYT-R would have a good marketing opportunity at offering a significantly lighter weight, quiet as stock exhaust. The stock exhaust muffler on my Vector was fricking heavy! But it was made well compared to the loud aftermarket piece I replaced it with. I’ve not weighed my new Nytro silencer but it appears that a bunch of weight could be chopped off. I’m sure it will be durable but it appears that it came off the back of a small car! :)

    I believe the muffler is from the Toyota Yaris but then again it could be the 87 Celica version ;-) Seriously, there is now a regulation where the muffler must have the SSCC certification stamp being enforced in Ontario (as well as some other provinces and states) The GYT parts would have to be tested under the SSCC by an independent lab then stamped and approved as OE spec. Likely won’t happen. That said, if companies like Hindle continue to develop lightweight replacements that are quieter than the OE, there might be hope. cheers

  4. rick fyall says:

    chris i have an 06 apex mountain and now a new nitro mtx coming with exhaust turnout and rack for the tunnel.i like to carry items on the tunnel racks and have had trouble finding a waterproof bag or container for this purpose. usually by lunchtime this container is shrouded with snow from riding and is always wet. i have searched for a bag or container to serve the required purpose to no avail. have you in your travels come across what i am searching for as none of the accessories available seem to fit the bill for us mountain riders? great blog and thankyou in advance.

    Rick, I will pass your comment over to our accessories development people. I am not aware of anything offered beyond the ‘Man From Glad’… cheers cr

  5. Ski-Dog says:

    Chris a quick question on the nylon rear touring bags that you have a picture of. I currently use the semi-rigid bags in combination with the rear top trunk bag which offer enough space for me to head out for a week with thoughtful packing. Are these new bags equivalent in size or smaller?

    Yo Dog… Rich went out and measure the nylon bags and reported they are about half the size of your semi-rigid set-up. We will make sure we apply capacity in liters on future projects… meanwhile you’ll be needing a smaller tooth-brush ;-) cr

  6. Yellowknife says:

    Nice work on the fuel storage, I’m impressed with the quick development of these idea’s. You guys are providing plenty of options. Thanks for the outstanding level of service.

  7. Bob Parsons says:

    Any word on a tourbuddy for the Phazer? The tank caddy looks good but a tourbuddy sounds better.

    Bob I don’t think Tourbuddy makes a dedicated tank for the Phazer, you could check out their web-site at tourbuddy.com. I will pass your request to Chris over at TB. He needs to forecast a minimum number to cover his tooling costs.

  8. Stephen Burdick says:

    Chris,

    Wondering if there is a part number for those FX Nytro Saddle Bags with the extra tank in them? I am interested in ordering a set. Also wonder if they will be available in the USA?

    Thanks,

    Steve Burdick

    Hey Steve, we should have it up on our site within the next 48 hours heres the details: Part number SMA8GL630000 (careful YMUS might assign a different number), RETAIL 99.95cdn. YMUS is offering but not sure of their price. We should receive inventory end of next week. We currently have standing orders (back orders) for about 30% of our total order. cheers cr

  9. Ernie says:

    We need help to find a piston for a 1988-89
    snow scoot SV-80 any feed back would be greatly apprieciated
    Ernie

    Ernie, I checked with our parts dept. and these pistons are no longer available from Japan (not in Canada / USA or Europe). I don’t know about the after-market but Wiseco and Kimpex would both be worth checking out. Another thing I learned a long time ago is a lot of our pistons substitute to other applications. There are a lot of Yamaha 80cc scooters and dirt bikes out there. When I had my dealership I used to measure up pistons against what I had in stock and often came up with replacements that worked.

    You may have to find an accommodating dealer, hand him your old piston and hope they can find something that works within their parts stock. You could also use our web-site dealer locater and contact a few dealers to see if anyone has one in stock… You are looking for part number 3M8-11631-01-96 or 3M8-11636-01 (first over)… sorry man best I can offer cr

  10. David Jackson says:

    I an interested in using an Apex for long distance travel. I need it to have max carrying capacity for first aid and emergency camping gear (sleeping bag, etc.) Are there any high capacity bags available for the Apex? Or would I have to go to a Venture ,etc? Thanks — Long Dog

    We offer multiple storage solutions for the Apex with various saddlebags, tank bags, nose bag etc… but none of these are really high capacity. You may need to get a little creative for the sleeping bag. There are some interesting products in the aftermarket as well. Mountain Co-Op has a huge selection of sleeping bags and packs. You might consider a high tech back-pack mounted to a rear rack… The Venture may be a good consideration for you, of all the touring sleds out there, it handles the most ‘sporty’ has excellent wind protection and a bullet-proof engine add to that the 144 inch track (deep snow ability and comfort) and additional load capacity, (you should check out the 2-pc modular seat and removable backrest) then there is the Apex LTX which gives you more options for storage of light items and a 136 inch track … personally I like a platinum credit card, a toothbrush and Quebec ;-) cheers cr

  11. jeff says:

    hi, i have a 2001 yamaha srx 700 with an aftermarket can on it. will i get a fine on a OFSC trail in ontario. and if so, what will the fine be?

    The short answer is YES. Modified exhaust is illegal in this province. If the sled is quiet, they likely won’t check you out, they look for the SSCC stamp on the OE muffler when in doubt. Not sure what the fine is, seem to recall $300 but not sure. You could check with OPP or STOP (re OFSC trail wardens) who will certainly know. Boils down to who stops you and what mood they’re in. Heard some stories about enforcement and attitude on the Seguin for example …be forewarned…
    End of the day, noisy pipes have created a lot of problems for motor sports over the years. We are currently dealing with land access issues all across North America and the number one issue is noise for most people. It can be argued that in winter its not such a big deal but in reality it is, I get to see some of the hate mail and the spin the more radical ‘green’rs’ put on things. The times are a changin… good news, is you don’t need to make noise to go fast any more. Think about it… cheers cr

  12. Don says:

    Hi , has anyone had luck finding a replacement piston for an sv80 snoscoot?
    or does anyone know what it might crossreference to?


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